Young-earth creationist Ken Ham caught fibbing once again

If you're lying for Jesus, it's OK, right?

If you're lying for Jesus, it's OK, right?

For the head of an organization that is supposedly based around preaching the “truth of God’s word,” Ken Ham sure seems to lie a lot.

Just off the top of my head, there was the documented attempts at historical revisionism by his group, Answers in Genesis, which tried in 2009 to twist the words of the late Charles Spurgeon into its prescribed young-earth creationist mold.

Much more recently, the man we affectionately refer to around here as “K-Ham” or “Hammy” made the bizarre statement during a Google Plus live chat that he doesn’t “know where people get the idea that people rode dinosaurs.” He went on to say, “I mean, there’s no evidence in the Bible that that is so. I mean, when Job was looking at Behemoth, the description there, there’s nothing to do with people riding dinosaurs. We don’t know how people interacted with dinosaurs.”

While it’s certainly true that there is no evidence in the Bible that people rode dinosaurs (since, you know, dinosaurs as aren’t mentioned in the Bible at all), it is not true that K-Ham is completely ignorant of where the idea came from, since the idea came from him. That is, it can be traced to his books, such as “Dinosaurs of Eden: Tracing the Mystery Through History” (relevant excerpt seen here), and his “museum,” which includes a sculpted, saddled dinosaur that children may scamper aboard and have their picture taken upon.

Perhaps it is unfair to call these instances “lies.” Maybe they are honest mistakes. K-Ham says and writes a lot of things; he can’t be expected to remember everything he has ever said and done at the drop of a hat.

However, as a Christian, I take what Ham says about the gospel message and the free gift of salvation offered in Christ Jesus particularly seriously. That’s why I was very surprised (OK, not really that surprised) to find this on Hammy’s Facebook page this morning:

Ken Ham lies again

I included the screenshot, just in case he should be seized by the temptation for any further attempts at accidental historical revisionism (i.e., deleting the post).

K-Ham is righteously indignant at an unnamed blogger (this gentleman, apparently), whom he quotes as saying, “AiG is, unfortunately, famous for insinuating, if not outright saying, that if a literal, six-day creation six to ten thousand years or so ago is untrue, then Christianity is untrue.” Ham sputters that (emphasis mine):

That’s simply a gross misrepresentation of what we do say. Salvation is not conditioned on a ‘six-day creation six to ten thousand years ago,’ but on faith in Christ. What we do say is reinterpreting the clear words of Scripture in Genesis to fit with millions of years undermines biblical authority. Such compromise can affect the coming generations in regard to how to look on Scripture–it can cause doubt leading to unbelief. It’s an authority issue.

Now, to be fair, K-Ham is generally pretty consistent in his message that those of us believers who accept evolution are just “COMPROMISERS,” not outright heathens. But at the same time, Ham has, in fact, taught exactly what the above blogger said he has.

See our previous story on the latest creationist movie in which Ham and his cohorts are featured. In the trailer for that film, Ham says the following: “What we need to do is to make sure we start right at the very beginning, in Genesis, answer the skeptical questions that are causing people to doubt that that book is true, to help them understand that the history is true — that’s why the gospel based on that history is true.

His implications are perfectly clear: He believes the gospel is true because the 6,000-year-long history of the universe based on his literal interpretation of Genesis is true. Which offers a perfectly straightforward and thoroughly unpleasant inverse: If the 6,000-year-long fantasy peddled by Ham is not true, then neither is the gospel.

In other words, the statement that Ham called a “gross misrepresentation” is anything but.

So, now you see Ken Ham for what he really is: A man who not only teaches that the truth of the gospel rises and falls on the factual accuracy of the claims found at his “museum” where you can ride a fake dinosaur, but also a man who lies about having ever said that.

He is right about one thing, though. None of us should presume to be able to accurately predict what he’s going to say at his upcoming “debate” with Bill Nye the Science Guy. Normally, one can base guesses about the positions of a public figure on his past statements, but evidently, that method is completely unreliable when it comes to Mr. Ken Ham.

For K-Ham, history — even his own history — is whatever he wants it to be.

Tyler Francke

Category: Culture, Current Events, Latest Developments, Theology

  • Nancy R.

    James McGrath noted in his blog that Ken Ham did the same thing a year ago – wondering why in the world people think his organization claims that people rode dinosaurs: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/2013/02/ken-hams-saddled-dinosaurs.html
    Have a look at the picture from the children’s book about dinosaurs authored by Ham – it depicts people riding dinosaurs and using them as beasts of burden. If he claims that such speculation is unbiblical, then why is he deliberately teaching young children that such things happened?

    • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

      Maybe it’s just unbiblical for other people to speculate on it. Perhaps Ken Ham thinks he gets a free pass? Thanks for the link, Nancy. Appreciate your thoughts!

      • Nancy R.

        What really bothers me about what Ham is doing, in this instance, is denying to adults what he is actively teaching children. That’s not just dishonesty. That’s taking advantage of young people who believe in the authority of adults and their teaching. If he doesn’t actually believe dinosaurs were pets and pack animals, he shouldn’t teach it as biblical fact (care to find some extra-biblical evidence of this?). Children don’t have the discernment that adults do to distinguish the difference between gospel and human invention, and he’s mixing them together in a dangerous way. Once these children discover that people riding dinosaurs is a laughable notion (and Ham is clearly aware that it is), they may abandon everything else those same adults taught them about the Bible – including faith in Jesus.

        • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

          I think that is an immensely valid concern, considering the sheer volume of material that AiG produces that is aimed directly at children.

  • Alan S

    I love how Ham basically has consistently said “I’m not saying that you have to believe in YEC to be saved, but if you DON’T accept YEC, you’re a COMPROMISER!!” Oh, that makes me feel a lot better! So, I’m saved, but I’m…in a sinful state of rebellion against the truth? What else does “COMPROMISER” imply, than a willful sinfulness on the pat of the one compromising?? As you suggested in your LAST post, couldn’t the geocentric Christians (of which there ARE still a few) accuse HAM of being a COMPROMISER for accepting the secular scientific view that the earth revolves around the sun???

    • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

      It is sort of funny to imagine a confrontation between Ham and a geocentrist, flat-earth believing Christian. It makes me smile to think of K-Ham trying to chastise a believer for taking the text “too” literally.

  • ashleyhr

    Tyler
    I’ll flag your post at Randy’s blog (where I commented yesterday before even seeing your blog). Note that Ham has said something very similar AGAIN this week about the implications of not accepting Genesis (the way he accepts it). But he also has an agenda of accusing critical bloggers (even mildly critical ones like Randy) of “gross misrepresentation” of his views etc – in order to make himself look better (ie more victimised) to his narrow-minded fanbase.

    • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

      Thanks, Ashley!

  • TogetherWeStand

    Instead of pointing the finger at Ken Ham for having a dinosaur children’s ride it would seem to me that Tyler Franke should concentrate on telling the truth himself. He recently lied to me claiming that he in no way has remotely indicated that evolution is taught in the Bible, though there is a webpage on this site claiming that Ecclesiastes 3:18-20 does just that and the website name (godofevolution) would lead anyone to assume differently. There is also a very sad image of an evolved ape carrying the precious cross of Christ at the top of each web page.

    • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

      The conversation our resident troll is misquoting from can be found here, where he said, “You are honest in admitting that you believe evolution is taught in the Bible,” and I replied, “I have said nothing remotely like that.” I was under the assumption (which I believe to be quite reasonable) that “TogetherWeStand’s” original accusation was referring to the current discussion we were engaged in, rather than “everything I have ever said.”

      The Ecclesiastes passage he mentioned is one of our memes, where we make humorous points with silly pictures. (Despite his claim that he makes his living teaching young people how to argue, he doesn’t appear to be able to tell the difference between a joke and a serious statement.) He could have also referenced this meme.

      In both cases, the obvious intention of the pictures was something of a bridge-building exercise, pointing out that the entirety of scripture is not so rigidly opposed to the scientific theory of evolution as some claim. All the same, I do not believe, nor have I ever said, that the Bible teaches evolution. In fact, what I have said on numerous occasions is that the Bible is not a source of scientific information at all, and it is a misuse of the text to attempt to discern scientific information from it.

      I believe it to be a divinely inspired book, infallible on all that it was intended to teach, which includes deep and everlasting truth about God, his nature, his workings through history and his relationship with man and the condition of man. At the same time, it was written by ancient human people, and its truths are in some ways conveyed through an ancient and limited understanding of the natural world. I believe this to be a vessel that is as incidental and irrelevant to the Bible’s timeless message as the fact that it was originally written in ancient Hebrew and Greek.

    • Aceofspades25

      Oh scandal… how dare he have a picture of an evolved ape (otherwise known as Homo sapien) carrying a cross.

      • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

        Yes, quite the scandal.

  • Acey916

    Hey good read :) Its sad that Ken Ham has to put ultimatums on people for believing stuff like evolution (which is undoubtedly true, and the earth is not 6000 years old, its much much older closer to 4.5 billion years old) But because Ken Ham does not agree with people who can live in reality he resorts to calling you not Christian, if you dont “buy” into his strict literal form of Christianity then it seems like he denies that you are even a Christian. Its sickening that people actually listen to this guy or even worse go to his museum. The fact he claims people have no idea where we got the “riding on dinosaurs” from is proof alone to his dishonesty. Look at his museum which seems like its in the 4th dimension, riding dinosaurs is the norm. Honestly how ridiculous is that? The claim that people used to ride dinosaurs, the claim that people even lived at the same time as dinosaurs is just absurd. Its like these Young Earth Creationists do not even try to learn the facts of biology or history. They do not realize how crazy it sounds that humans lived with dinosaurs, also, they do not realize how impossible it would have been for humans and dinosaurs to share the earth together (at the same time) The atmosphere would have been thicker when dinosaurs lived, the climate was drastically different 65 million years ago (not 6000) humans would not have been able to survive the climate at that time, thus, living side by side with dinosaurs is impossible. How do young earthies account for no record of dinosaurs in ANY written human history??? They say this: “Dinosaurs were so common, so common place, that nobody felt it was relevant to write about them, or mention them. Its like nobody talks about cows or sheep today” – Ken Ham. This was a quote I read of his a few weeks ago. But he is wrong people did write about all the animals they lived with, and sorry Mr. Hammy but Dinosaurs are never mentioned. If dinosaurs lived next to humans I think we would expect to find cave paintings of them, or even one mention of them. But we dont because its absolutely crazy to truly believe we lived side by side with dinosaurs. I really cannot understand how people can believe some of this stuff. Is it ignorance or is it stupidity? Or is it a mix of both? Thats what I cannot seem to figure out. I have nothing against Religious people, I do have something against stupid people though. I believe what they teach (young earth Creationists) is harmful to society, its not science, its not even close to being real science, it damages they way people think critically and accept truths, overall I believe young earth creationists need to be stopped before they plummet us back into the dark ages!

    • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

      Thanks for the support, man! Glad you liked the article. I honestly don’t understand how Ken Ham manages to maintain the following he does while pulling stuff like this. I suppose he’s just very good at what he does (sales and marketing).

      • Acey916

        Yeah he knows how to sell the product. I totally agree :) Thanks for the response!! Love ur blog/site :)

        • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

          Thanks! I appreciate the support!

  • Christina McDonald

    What I find offensive is this guy saying he knows all about the bible when his degree isn’t even in Christian studies. Zip zero nada. He even had the audacity to take on a former minister who had PhD’s in Christianity and other Christian related studies. As far as I’m concerned he just came over from Assie land, saw a ripe plum in the bible belt ready for picking and put down roots and a shoddy museum.

    • http://godofevolution.com/ Tyler Francke

      Sounds about right to me. Thanks, Christina!