Another meme about Ken Ham and the “Ancient Aliens” guy

See “Ken Ham tells the truth” for the specifics on this, and “Young-earth creationist Ken Ham caught fibbing once again” for some of the peculiar inconsistencies in Ham’s views in general.

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  • James Stange

    I like the meme!

  • Ken Ham says that a Christian who does not accept YECism is still a Christian, just a ‘compromised’ one.

    How is this different from, say, the Roman Catholic Church that recognises Protestants as Christians, just ‘separated brethren’ or not having the ‘fullness of the faith’? Or, a myriad of Christian churches that think Other Churches are wrong/incomplete because they interpret certain Bible passages differently. At the Baptist church we attend, for example, the pastor has said a few times why ‘we’ don’t practise infant baptism.

    Do you think, in this sense, that YECism is like a denomination unto itself? It has its own peculiar interpretation of certain Bible passages that it becomes a litmus test to determine who is ‘in’ and who is not.

    • It’s different in that Ham and his followers regard Christians who accept evolution as “lesser” believers, who are on a “slippery slope” to atheism and are, for all intents and purposes, their enemies. Ham recently stated that Hugh Ross, an old-earth creationist, is “an enemy of biblical authority.”

      It’s one thing to say, “I disagree with you and think that you are wrong, but I respect your right to have and hold your own opinion.” It’s quite another to say, “I disagree with you and think that you are wrong, and if you don’t change your mind and agree with me God will be mad at you.”

      • It’s quite another to say, “I disagree with you and think that you are wrong, and if you don’t change your mind and agree with me God will be mad at you.”

        Do you think YECism is a cult, or perhaps, like a cult?

        From my vantage point, I think this anti-evolution YECism is only one issue. Evolution, it seems, is blamed for all sorts of society’s ills.

        Schools are teaching evolution. Pull your kids out and homeschool them!

        Science books teach evolution. Teach them using YEC materials!

        Sunday Schools are not properly catechising our kids. Sunday Schools are based on evolutionary ideas! Pull your kids out.

        Youth Groups are too fun-and-games focused. Youth Groups are based on evolutionary ideas. Pull your kids out!

        Church has too many age- and gender-segregated activities. All those ‘ministries’ are based on secular, evolutionary ideas. Family-Integrated Churches is the only biblical model!

        Ken Ham has been involved in promoting all the ideas mentioned above.

        • I think it can be a cult, but it’s so often entangled with other issues that it’s difficult to tease out and see in isolation. I personally know many Christians who hold to young-earth ideas for their own views, but don’t believe the people who disagree with them are “compromisers” or lesser Christians. I have absolutely no problem with those folks. Yes, I disagree with them, and I think they’re wrong, but my goal is not to be the evangelist for evolution. As long as they are not teaching that the gospel is dependent on YECism, I’m not going to knock myself out trying to change their minds. I do not believe such an open-minded perspective is a “cult mentality.” It’s only when views become closeminded (“I’m right and there’s no possible way I could be wrong, and anyone and anything that says otherwise is a lie from the devil”) that it becomes dangerous.

      • Headless Unicorn Guy

        It’s one thing to say, “I disagree with you and think that you are
        wrong, but I respect your right to have and hold your own opinion.” It’s
        quite another to say, “I disagree with you and think that you are
        wrong, and if you don’t change your mind and agree with me God will be
        mad at you.”

        Don’t forget “I Reject YOUR Reality and Substitute My Own!”

    • Headless Unicorn Guy

      Do you think, in this sense, that YECism is like a denomination unto itself?

      More CULT than denomination — just look at the sound-bite groupthink and the handwaving.

  • Headless Unicorn Guy

    “Ancient Aliens Guy” as in Eric Von Daniken?